— Well, you can make a buckle in different ways. This buckle is cut off a run of the mill briefcase and held together with straps. And, yeah, these there briefcases have been through a lot – the kids studied – old briefcases, old locks. Or have you never had a briefcase or what? And the yellow 'un is over there now, under the table – even if it had been battered up, all the same the lock would have been ok. And like those rubber bands are on the top so that the fishing rods stay in place. 'Cos where else could they be? Down there, on the bottom. Everything'd get mixed up if you just stuck them on the bottom (…) It's like, y'know, what's the difference what rubber bands, you can get them from any pair of trousers. The straps are just straps, the belt's just a belt (…) You're dressed in fleece-lined trousers, so you've got some warmth there; you're sitting practically on wood. And that's so that water or snow or early rains don't get on the case (…) Well in any case this board is, let's say, a standard chessboard. You just need to be able to make a good case out of it. Look, there are brackets everywhere. It turned out as a soft case. Look, there are brackets at the bottom and on the sides, everything done with screws. It (the chessboard. – editor) was already ready, as far as size goes, its height and width. I didn't need to do anything with else with it except knock together a good case out of it. Yeah.